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id=IJ2s9s Q9b Gk C&lpg=PA11&ots=YIJQPjj PBJ&dq=maliq III culture&pg=PA11#v=onepage&q=maliq III culture&f=false). They belong to two eparchies: to Lungro for Arbëreshë of southern Italy, and that of Piana degli Albanesi for Arbëreshë of Sicily.

Recently a bomb exploded 10m away from them (I think it made international news) but they didn't move at all! Do you have haplotypes of Gorales to link them to Illyrians? Any other cultural similarities, music, customs, art? Before that pants were only used as undergarment and for horse riding. Recherches sur l'histoire du sandhi dans la langue albanaise. The word Shqiptár is also used in a few villages of Thrace, where Arvanites migrated from the mountains of Pindus during the 19th centur And I know many Arvanites that live in Greece, they are all Albanians, with Albanian names, only they are Orthodox Christians, I also know many Arbereshe in italy that are proud Albanians here is a list: * Giorgio Basta (1544–1607), aristocrat, general and military strategist in the Holy Roman Empire. Jeronim de Rada [1] ( (in Italian ( Girolamo de Rada 1814 - 1903) is a writer of Italo ( literature ( ( who was the foremost figure of the Albanian ( nationalist movement in nineteenth-century Italy ( see the Arbereshe in Italy are still proud Albanians, and there are many nationalists among them like Jeronim de Rada, I also know many Arvanite from Greece who are nationalists. probably not good versionof my lexico to show good will lets see the greek GR APAX APAK-s ΑΠΑΞ means from the moment (Απαξ, εξαπαντος = once, the exact moment) Gr Apar in many synthesis like απαρ-αιτητος = απαραιτητος also par-on = present moment to understand the Greek you must forget the IE and roman Par-on = present this moment NON IE PAR-ELTHON =past moment that pass NON IE A par-aithtos = means needed the exact moment NON IE A par-Amillos =this momment can not be compared As you see Greek have the Aphar as APAR and its not in the moment βασαι????? Latin Venio as Greek is βαιν-ω - Ven-o watch the above βαριον-barion WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT WORD ? Pro-baton = walks before you (you lead them by back, not infront of them) also Gr Prait-on and Βraita (Bariata change r Braita -Praita) But the Pelasgian is Kουρατ -Kurat Kora is the name of the herd of sheeps later became Kopa gr R (Ρ) is latin P (π) modern greek kopadi homeric once names them Βηρατα Birata by what i remember WRONG INFORMATION Besides in Albanian is Dhen BAD APRROACH AND BAD INFORMATION βυσαι-vishe----------kripse-fshihe, mbuloje----vishe-vishe now watch carefully Close = Kleino = Κλεινω ΙΕ Hide = Κρυβω but also enby-o Proto-Greek Δυ-ω = the sunset the end of day Bυ-ω = turn the light away NOT HIDE Βυω present Bysa-me pluralΕ-Βησα past means turn off light, fire, a(s) -Bestos = calcium (no turn off with water) a βυω Modern Greek ΣΒΕΝΩ sbeno- sbino ερδαι-erdhe GR passive ercho-mai elthe (Ελθε) ερχου Gr active ΝΟΤ in USE I will not enter more to trouble simply you copy paste from a stupid site like aristidi k.....It also says that it was used by some Roman Legions as marching music. Iliria in Albanian meand "The Free One" And spare me the bull about Albanian genetics. the arvanitet knew that they were greeks, and return back to avoid the changes in albania, most arvanitet are tosk, and some gegs, and were at Kastrioti army, but the betrayal of baraba pasha, and the religion change and the hunt of albanians push them south, besides all arvanitet were with ali pasa but the genocide of suliotet, prove them that the same happened to kastrioti is going to happened to them, so they abandoned ali pasa, besides arvanitet stay in the old, it is the albanians that change, first with serbs, then with normands, and last with turks, besides Ducagkini are also 2 families living in greece, and were at kastrioti army The custom of wearing fustanella (kilt) can be explained as the kilt worn in Egypt thousands of years BC. the new greeks call them as it should as "pre-greeks"), which today are the same in albanian, but not are the same in new greek, they translate them. κιελλι-qielli--------------uranos=qielli-----------qielli-qielli So, (pelasgian)"κιελλι-qielli", is "qielli" in albanian; but in new greek is "ouranós" ... Yj, Hyu, Hyj is a very important and ancient Albanian word. About the game of Pre-Indo-Europian, and Indo-europian languages you play (Although they have many shortcomings like a theory, however, they must have elements of the truth inside) If we refer to ancient scientists, all describe Pelasgians as indigenous, from Gibraltar (Pillars of Hercules ") in the west, to the Caucasus in the east, the Baltic Sea up in the north, to Egypt in the south, while the world mythology goes to extremes and claim that "pelasgus" was the first man ... Spesifically, if we talk about Fustanella ( I thing that is an albanian culture element, but not only. Wile the other nations progress, this part of pelasgians stay isolated, drawn to the mountains and back to sea, were we can find them under the name of the eagles (shqiptar - son of the eagles), but on the other side, in this way they preserved the langauge, culture, symbolism of old pelasgians intact. at 1080 an Emperror gives first permission to settle in Athens due to a disease that eliminate population and the massacre of Greeks by Christians (pagan Hunt, Witch HUnt etc), Although many believe has connection with Illyria later 1210 about a Latin ruler also gives permission, Same time in Albania is created the state of Arber Later in albania is a Normand and Latin Invasion at the state of Alba of Anju that divide pop to 2 catholic and orthodox that time albania was many times allied Serbia or with Normands against Epirotans when turks conquer Makedonia the Orthodox allied many times and made weddings just to unite medieval small kingdoms against Turks that is the time when you see Greek names in Serbian rulers, like the name paiologos Italian names from latin Crusaders etc that ends at about 1450-1500 AD with the fall of Con/polis, the Fall of Trebizond, the Palaiologos Dynasty, and the Kastrioti movement and Resistance, After that in Greece there is a movement of people and villages that starts almost from Normand ocupation of Albania, In fact the Albanians same time turn to Muslim and followed Baraba pasa the lost of Kastrioti starts devastasion from Albania to elsewhere but mainly Greece for reason of religion and nationality as also Villages and areas leave to avoid Turk-Albanian (turk means Muslim) they settled every where in Greece that stoped for a time and started after Moschopolis (Voskopoje) city Burn by Albanians and by Ali pasa, Before Greek revolution only at Ali pasa times is about 150 000 people move to Greece Italy and Bulgaria Romania I know cause my brother in Law is Epirotan and his village moved from Polliani (Pogiani) after the son of kastrioti (john) and went to Epirus and then moved here by the hunt of Ali-pasa (Argyrokastro vs Ioannina war), he is Arbanitet as Greeks name the people that moved from that area, the problem is that arbanitet are divided in 3 families 1 the Attica that came at 1080-1250 2 the Epirotans and Kastrioti followers kicked by Albanian Muslim 3 the Arbanito-Vlachs (vlachs that lived in albania) In fact when Greek revolt started the maps show and name areas like Sicily and almost today Albania as areas that should liberated from Turks, and from Turk-Albanians by Greeks and Arbanites and Moldavians, Don't forget that Greek revolution started at Moldo-Wallachia not in Greece by a Pontian Greek(Trebizond) the problem of Albania is that the majority of Arbanites denies the Albanian Nationality, but accepts the origin From Illyria and Epirus.Actually it could have gotten to Scotland with Roman Legions. Pika ku kryqëzohen a priten rrezet e një tufe drite, pasi kjo të ketë përshkuar një thjerrzë ose të jetë kthyer nga një pasqyrë e përkulur. It's been proven that most Albanians belong to the Haplogroups I and R1b, with R1a and E in the smaller side. “The ancient Egyptians made their own clothes from what their environment and nature gave them. Those above I got from the book "Hesychii Alexandrini lexicon", By Kurt Latte, Peter Allan Hansen. and if the the color of the sky is ciel or cian or cyan and modern is galano - caliano galazio, that verifies how the pelasgian name about the sky (qielli as albanian today), is the root of the connection you gave "now as you see the connection is done qielli k=g=ch=q gallano", and not the opposite ! Yllirians, Illyrians, also helion/hellen are from the same root wich survived only in albanian, as small semantic units )... [I]It's so sad when the so called ancient Greek takes the credits from this beautiful Albanian word. then we face the theory of some new scientists who think that Pelasgians were the first Indo-Europians who came to Europe. It's a element of ancient culture and was preserved from the extract of that culture, but we have to know and to accept the fact that she was adobted from other latter cultures (like greeks does). Also we had those in Egypt but we have to know that Pelasgians (like a very old culture) were in Egypt too. It is interesting to note that many scholars, rightly, could not determine or Generalized Albanian alone or as part of a group of languages. pid=247816&id=100001133356751) Herodotus described Pelasgians as non-greek and autochthonous pid=187324&id=100001133356751) Albanian folk verse: structure and genre pid=224001&id=100001133356751) The Albanians- An Ethnic History from Prehistoric Times to the Present that is why the Albanians claim Kastrioti as a trully Albanian and Greeks as a Greek cause if you ask Arbanites where are from they will tell you from North Epirus south Illyria (today Albania) but if you ask them what is your Nationality they will tell you Greek, that is the situation and I try to avoid any political claims in my post just report, The name Arbanite as Arbanite of Aticca claim comes the city of Arbano the more ask Arbanites Regulus, They are all educated and many Ministers and prime ministers before etc and have their own blogs Even today there is some areas in that place that Albania and Greece have claims, although day by day the situation is stabilized according the Albanians the 1400 and after Arbanites are Albanians According to Arbanites of that time they were Greeks that left under albanian preesure I have points and questions about all three above: I believe that Athens was pretty old for Greek settlements and were there before the Dorians. I find it very unlikely that they had any Albanian admixture.Lynx here is another song with gajde (this time you can see the executor): It is mostly very short people, totaly oposite of tall Montenegrins beside them. Let them decide what they wannabe called, and clearly they are Albanians, as for fustanella, it's Albanian kilt adopted by Greeks from Markos Bocari, no doubt. v=q E5C6yv DCBk I can't see any Greeks, only Albanians. The Internet and forums have about it how you wants but it is now published and books. And it can be arrived to this conclusion taking in consideration all the other Indo-European languages that do not call “YJE” the stars, but: Sanscrito (Astra), Italian (astro, stella), Spanish (Estrella), Portuguese (Estrela), English (Stars), Greek (Aster) Persian (Setareh), German (Stern). Vigesimal counting is stand against counting Didactic, counting . But Indo-European theory, uses other elements of the truth (the identity of Pelasgians who is found within aryans, or the opposite, from primitive extraction of pelasgians came aryans. Pelasgians also were mixed whith Sumerians and formed Semitic people. Meanwhile, modern science should clarify many dilemmas, if they will abide by the primary requirement for dealing successfully with the outcome, who is undressing by pseudo-nationalisms. So far, this issue is left to the "status quo", because awareness of the Albanians in this direction would result domino effects, above all political, then the historical, cultural and geostrategic.v=8Y180lwaz VQ&feature=related But it doesnt explain why Scotland is called Alba. That difference is so obvious that every Yugoslav, only by physical appearance, could recognize Albanian. Most Arbereshe are still proud Albanians, while the Arvanite, it is said that they have been assimilated in to Greek population, this is not quite true, the Albanians in Greece have been mugged and beaten up for saying they are Albanians, that's why many are scared to say they are Albanians. The Ottoman and Slavic invasion should of never happened! One of the books that came out in 2010 is: Kush Khamit Raamah Faces of the Hamitic people by connecting to the Geg, Arvaniti and Chamuri Albanians actually are Hamiti. eyhe---- means to pray to the Hy(Deity) Ἀγρόται Ἀλεξίων εὐχάν----Agrote Aleksion lutemi o hy Ἀμμίλα Ἀρτάμιτι Ἀγρότᾳ εὐχάν---Amila Artamiti Agrota e hyan The standart translation for the verb e hyinoia is to make a favour or to be blessed by Gods But it's very clear that the exact translation is : deify by the Gods, blessed by the Gods. Viegesimal is characteristic of Indo-European world. So, in Albanian language, along with ten (dhjetë), thirty (tridhjetë), fifty (pesëdhjetë, etc.. However, it comes to the same extract that has survived as such directly to Albanians today, therefor albanian language is known as Indo-European language, but definitely they have to accept that like the oldest of this group, or its trunk) because even Indo-Europeans were originally formed by pelasgians extract before return (to their fathers) as heterogeneous nation called aryan: Remember here three sons of Noah: "Japheth" (pre-indo europian or Japhetic period in Europe ... This conclusion while still counts as a reference point for the successful outcome: Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz - Albanolog, mathematicians, german philosopher "If you want to discover the history from BC and the sciences of that time, you should study Albanian language" ________ @ Garrick Broadening as much in antiquity, the more peoples and nations emerge united with each other, originating from a common extract... But in relation to multidimensional rebuilding as a nation (like the phoenix from the ashes of destruction) and ability to manage the glory, awareness becomes, half of Greek Attica is of Albanian origin. And you wouldn't call them ''Arvanite'' if they were Greeks, because Arvanite is what Greeks called Albanians. Albanians called themselves Arbereshe and even Epirotan, later this name changed to Shqiptar. The Albanians in Italy also use the two headed eagle, they are fully Albanians, only your ignorance here is the problem.. are Greek soldiers dressed with this traditional fustanella-kilt-skirt or however you want to call it, guarding the Greek Parliament. ("Albanese" is also a common surname among the Arbëresh and their overseas descendants.) Arbereshe and Arvanite (THE SAME THING) Only Greeks called Albanians Arvanite, Albanians called themselves Arbereshe, Italians called us Albanese. I mean if you look at their names you could think they are Italians, while Muslims are more Turkish surnames because Ottomans formed clans and changed them in to Turkish surnames. pid=144005&id=100001133356751) For skeptics or uninformed people: ... aid=23767&id=100001133356751&l=5e6b160e5a Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz - Albanolog, mathematicians, german philosopher "If you want to discover the history from BC and the sciences of that time, you should study Albanian language" ... u=28503) I still dont understand what are you trying to prove, that fustanella is only albanian?

They are not supposed to talk or move (except for the routine where they change shifts, which has to be perfect) during their shift. Jam një zjarr e një vatër me dikë shih te ZJARR,~I 2. Vatër kulture institucion që merret me organizimin e drejtimin e veprimtarisë kulturore e artistike në një fshat të vogël. What do they inherited from ancient non-slavic culture, except of ""similar pants and one word Vatra""???? Arbereshe are Albanians that left Albania during Ottoman invasion, and are still Catholics, while We Albanians (Arbereshe) in Albania started calling ourselves Shqipetar in honor of Skanderbeg, so two different words, the same people. so all Christians that were converted were changed their surname into Turkish. pid=69024&l=86294d8b98&id=100001133356751 Homer Language then what about the bulgarian karakatsan are they albanians also?

v=8Y180lwaz VQ&feature=related Alba is an insular Celtic word. Another similarity between scots and albanians is gajde, a musical instrument. v=NTAXn5o8Q4Q&feature=related And here is albanian music with gajde: That Illyromania was part of Albanian national revival, the same way as it was used in Croatia with Illyrian movement. I think the question now is how we can move foward, and I don't think ultra-nationalism is the answer. or kosovo I guess, I would be worried about reforming said countries to get aligned with EU standards, because right now there is alot of corruption in both countries. kilt (fustanella) is an Egyptian/North African costume. It was not pronounced in greek since ancient times, but it is still pronounced in erasmic pronunciation and it is preserved in transliterations of greek words to some european languages. scr.poly: ἱστoρία erasmic: [histo`ria] but monotonic ιστoρία mod.gre: english history, (french) histoire, etc. Remind you that this Albanian word, is verified since at least 1600 BC ... Vigesimal count has also BASQUE language, partly Danish and southern Italian dialects in some cases (as closed parts of albanian language as pre-Indo-European). From the field of ethnography, which proves the direct connection with the people of today's Albanian like pre-Indo-European, among others, also is counted and the habit of "kuvadës" counted as one of the cultural rilict of pre-Indo-European. did, and I mention some of them), you'll encounter elements of the most ancient language, culture, race... Wile the other part of pelasgian (etruscians) formed latins and a part of them as we said, withdrew to the mountains(todays albanians, who decides to maintain their original identity) and in this way, albanians are direct descendants of Pelasgians. pid=206403&l=2279575efe&id=100001133356751 Chronicles of Theophanes - The Great Illyrian City of Thessalonike About the name Epirotes, I have thought for a long time that Epirotes may have had a connection with Albanians, possibly being culturally or ethnically mixed with Illyrians.

v=r Gv_LEKg Gew Actually this similarity is found in whole Europe. I just read an article of musical historian that states that this instrument was mentioned since second century bc in Greece then in Rome. Nice Serbian propaganda you have there, why dont you take that to Storm Front :laughing: The word "Illyria" is an Albanian word. This will not only improve the lives of albanians but for the region to do business as albanian canun is also a Greek kanon κανων and means law we can find also in minor asia in Kulla and even to pontic greeks, is the ancient law of families, besides that law is also in crete but it is named as Vendeta (revenge) there is another thred also about albania, what do you believe, the albanians came from greece to dardania or fron sicily? A pair of pictures: iapetoc I have more than 2.000 of pelasgian words (not published yet all together... εντυε-endie-------parasqevazi=endi,endje---endie-endie So, (pelasgian)"εντυε-endie", is "endie" or "endje" today in albanian; but in new greek is "periférontai" or "ýfansi"̱ 5. {then the display of "r" creates other words related to the first (r)-reze(ray)... old gre: ὑπόθεσις erasmic: --------- hypothesis old gre: ὑπνωτικόν ----------hypnotic old gre: ὕμνoς --------------hymn Because of the diacritic marks: ὕ=hy In Linear B are known the words "i-je-re-ja " and "i-je-ro-ja ". I-je-re-ja in linear script B is Y T, placed one above the other is "Yjt. This habit has remained alive among Albanians today, and partly the memory of this custom save the Basques of Spain. that have existed in the world and what is more important, is still alive today . pid=224113&id=100001133356751) __________________________________________________ ________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________________________________ ... and for ancient writers (Homer, Herodotus, Strabo, Pliny...), pelasgians autochthon and pre-hellenic or other strange population, whith other language but in the late period the part of pelasgians were mixed whith greeks (and whith pelasgian words which we can find today in albanian language as smallest semantic units, was created greek language, we have descriptions that people had difficulty to learn that new language ... This self isolation, of that part of pelasgians who decided to stay true to their identity, had its multidimensional consequences. pid=187202&id=100001133356751) A History of Greece- The Greek revolution, pt. pid=187303&l=4614382e16&id=100001133356751 Journey through Albania The Albanian community that has been in Italy for a number of generations is very interesting. I have a friend whose family came to the US from that region. Regulus the Arbanites is little mixed situation both claim watch Arbanites (somewhere around today Durres and Aylona (Vlore), not mention Before, first language mention is at 1040 AD with Byzantine minor Asian George Maniakis General as soldiers against the Normands of Sicily.

Both could be offshoots from the Unetice culture from Central Europe. After some were forced[citation needed] out of their homeland to Italy, these Italian-born Albanians continued to use the term Arbëresh whilst those in Albania called themselves Shqiptarë (compare the Albanian word Shqip, present in the local name for the country and the language).

Who knows, perhaps this common source of IE people called themselves "Alba(n)" ? Pozicioni gjuhësor i ilirishtes ballkanike në rrethin e gjuhëve indoevropiane. "Albanese" or "Albanesi" which occurs in several of the Italian names above is the Italian language word for "Albanian" or "Albanians", respectively. 1931), American media personality and occasional actor and singer. 1977), American Professional wrestler Well, when it comes to religion Albanian Catholics are more like Latins.

Also there are some facts that Thracians (including dacian tribe) with illyrians were within the same subgroup of peoples. albanian "katër" "katra", in romanian "patru" Another word is reversed: in latin Columbo, in albanian Pëllumb, and in romanian porumbelul, in this case latin is K, and romanian and albanian are P. There is not bagpipe among frances, basque, italian, germans etc. Furthermore, placenames can be a special case and the Albanian language more generally has not been proven to be of Illyrian stock.[42] Many linguists have tried to link Albanian with Illyrian, but without clear results.[42][60] Albanian belongs to the satem group within Indo-European language tree, while there is a debate weather Illyrian was centum or satem. Über das Albanesische in seinen verwandtschaftlichen Beziehungen. of the Balkan population (carriers of haplogroup E) is from albanian canun is also a Greek kanon κανων and means law we can find also in minor asia in Kulla and even to pontic greeks, is the ancient law of families, besides that law is also in crete but it is named as Vendeta (revenge) there is another thred also about albania, what do you believe, the albanians came from greece to dardania or fron sicily? And don't give me bullshit about Arnaut means the ones who never returned lol. Kastrioti and Dukagjini were not Tosks, they were Gegs. Kastrioti gathered all Albanians from Macedon, Epirus, Kosovo and Montenegro to fight Turks. bredh ...............................loiter perenda........................... brenda .............................inside entenda........................... denda ..............................ambiledza .......................e mblodha ....................... I gathered trempa .............................tremb .............................scare deta............................... djathta ..............................right mems .............................. mish ................................ambi ................................ mbi .................................above binda ...............................binda ..............................convince bugt ................................butë .................................buzja ...............................................................druw ...............................dru(druits) ..........................wood(tree) kuri ................................. blert(blerim) njas ...............................ngjesh ..............................compress dija ................................di(dija) ........................... - ..who is the common denominator, of these languageges: Illyrian, Thracian, Hittit, Etruscan, old Greek... (as we know albanian language contains words from all these aforementioned languages) - ... Like these words written by you in p.3: "1.arbanites were greeks 2.fustanella is greek from πους =feet δενω-δεναλι = bound πουσδεναλι, 3.shqiptar = ish GYPTAR from egypt 4.sghqiptars learn the language from arbanites of arber who welcome you and you genocide them 5. pid=247828&id=100001133356751) Earth and its inhabitans - Europe by Elisee Reclus, edited by E. Ionius was also said to have been a son of Dyrrhachus of the town of Dyrrhachium (modern Durrës).